Episode 211 – Get Those Last RV Trips In — But Start Preparing for Winter Now

Winter is on the way and to staying on the road. Today we're going to talk about getting those last RV trips in now, but start preparing for wintertime storage.

And in quick tips, we're going to go back a few episodes and talk about the warranty on the low price jungle website, circuit boards and Motors for RV slide outs. That's episode 208. I'm going to give you an update on those. And then as smart Tips. Not all education happens in the classroom.

Maybe some of you have heard that, maybe you haven't, but we're going to discuss it. I'm Eric Stark. Welcome to the Smart rver podcast. If you'd rather be camping than sitting in a repair shop, you are in the right place.

Every episode, I'll walk you through practical DIY maintenance and repairs that keep you on the road. Welcome back, Smart RVers. Today is episode 211. So we've got a few things we're going to talk about today, some very interesting things.

We're going to have a little recap and new information. But hey, I want to remind you this is the task for this episode. Share this podcast with three other RVers this week. Don't say I'll do it next week.

Don't say I'll do it next month. Just share it. I know we're getting into wintertime.

Maybe some of your friends have already put their RVs into storage, but share this episode with them. Share the podcast in general. So now we're going to jump into getting those last RV trips in. But to start preparing for wintertime now.

In, you know, it's late summer, early fall if you will. Some people are already done camping for the year. They know that they're not going to be able to get out anymore.

But now this time of year sometimes is for me. I like it. It's the best time of year for me. You have cooler nights, fewer crowds, less people.

You have the leaves that are changing colors, the quiet. The campgrounds are quieter. It's just a great time to be out rving.

You know, in your rv, it's cooler during the day, so if you're out exploring, you're not so wiped out at the end of the day. You know, there's, you know, there's a lot of reasons to not put the RV way yet.

I know Labor Day has passed, but that doesn't mean you have to stop RVing. Think about that. If you still have it in you and you haven't winterized your RV yet, now's a great time to get that RV out.

But it's also a great time to start thinking about winterization because winter is coming and it's one of those things that sometimes gets put off, put off, put off until the last minute and then it's a scramble to get it done. You know, all of a sudden it's like, wow, we had a freeze last night. I better get my RV winterized or there's going to be a freeze tonight.

I better get my RV winterized. And we don't want to do that. We want to get started and get started early on this.

And we're going to have a checklist available on the website as well. And in this description there'll be a link to it to help you do that. So what you want to do right now is start looking at that overnight forecast.

Now if you have some trips planned. Yeah, you still want to do that too because it might interfere with your trip or change the dynamics of it.

But if you start watching the forecast now, you watch the two day, the ten day, what you know, whichever one works for you. The temperatures are good, but all of a sudden you can see that the temperatures can drop very quickly.

You can have a 60 degree day, 70 degree day, then all of a sudden it's 35 degrees at night or below. So that's why you want to start watching these things now, paying attention to the weather.

And by the way, there's a website, I'm going to put the link in the description. It's Max Velocity. This guy does weather, he's really good. I appreciate his weather reports. They always seem to be pretty accurate.

They're not filled with fluff. He just gets right in it. He's a fast talker and he's done so you got to pay attention.

But a weather forecast similar to his, I'm not saying this is his, this is just off the Internet, which matches what he said the other day when I listened to it. Early winter outlooks are leaning toward a warmer than average winter across much of the northern United States.

But that doesn't mean we won't get sudden cold snaps or freezing nights for an RV or one night in the 20s is all it takes to create a plumbing problem. So don't let an overall warmer forecast make you complacent. Now he didn't that RV part in. I did that.

You know, he doesn't know about us RVers out there. Well, he might, but who knows? But anyway, and that's accurate because you know, these warmer weather sometimes will lull us into everything's cool.

I don't have to worry about my rv. But you do because all of a sudden you get that cold snap and it'll be too late. So that's Max Velocity.

And the link will be to his website on our description. He has a YouTube channel, other stuff going on. He knows what he's talking about.

All right, so here, now you have to know what you're talking about, right? So are you still going to camp anymore this year or you're done for the season? You know that. Do you really realistically have another trip planned?

Is it the next weekend or three weeks away? Or is it, you know, maybe I'll get out one more time? You know, probably, you know, think about that.

You know, if you're going to go again, if you're not going to go again, man, just. Just do it. Don't, you know, just winterize the rv. Don't worry about it. No one will hold it against you if you don't go out and make one more trip.

But there's a big difference between we're camping again this weekend, or we might take one more trip sometime this month or next month. All right, so now we're kind of past that.

You're going to keep RVing for another month or so, or you're not, but either way, start gathering the winterizing supplies now. Don't wait. You know, we always feel like there's more time, and then we always feel like we're running out of time.

Then we know that there's not enough time, and all of a sudden, whoops, the deadline came and went. So make sure you have RV antifreeze.

And I know there's usually an abundance of it, but sometimes, you know, stores run out and that's all they're going to have for the year. They buy one time like we usually buy for the first few months of winter.

It's accessible to us, but then eventually it dries up and we can't get it anymore. And some stores have, you know, that happens because RV antifreeze is a very expensive product to make and ship.

So most companies buy one time for the wintertime. So a lot of heating stuff is like that. So they could run out. Maybe not.

You know your area, but make sure you have a bypass kit or the RV set up with that, that you have a blowout plug. If you're going to use air to winterize your rv, make sure your water pump winterizing kit is on there, or if you don't have one, get it.

So in other words, make sure you have everything you need. Now maybe you've winterized the same rv, you know, year after year. So you're very familiar with it. Did something break last year?

Is there something you wanted to upgrade?

Now would be the time to do it for winterizing and make sure you have the right things, the right supplies, sewer hoses and such to drain your holding tanks, to get them empty, cleaned out, flushed out for the year. So you don't necessarily have to winterize your RV today. You just want to have everything on standby.

So when that day does come and you need to do it, it's there. You're not scrambling now having to run around and buy stuff, which is nice. Not have to do that.

It's a good time to just make sure you have everything on standby and ready to go. Now also, last year you winterize your RV and you know that plumbing system how everything is in the rv, you know it's there.

But refresh your memory, you know, go back to your rv, you know, okay, where's the water heater? Pretty obvious, right? Well, it's more like where's the water heater bypass valve? Is it working last year? Are there any problems?

Your low point drains work. Do they need caps? Do they need to be replacement? Is the valve sticking?

You know, is your water pump working fine so it can pull that antifreeze through the system? You know, are there any filters that are going to have to be taken out of the system and winterized and bypassed, removed?

Do you have outside showers, spray ports, washing machine connections, ice makers and other easy to forget plumbing items? Which that's what happens. They're easy to forget and they get forgotten.

And I know because every springtime we sell a lot of that stuff, a lot of little parts that get forgotten. Now don't forget about the RV water heater. The water heater must be winterized. It has to be done before it freezes.

Because if that tank is filled with water and it freezes, it can split the tank and you got to buy a new water heater. But by the same token, don't pump gallons of RV antifreeze into the water heater unnecessarily. You're just going to drain the water heater.

That's why you have a water heater bypass kit. So when you're running the antifreeze through your rv, it doesn't go into the water heater, the water heater just gets drained. Pretty simple.

Then you leave the drain plug out or the anode rod dometics you drain with a I mean dometics, you drain with a cap or a plug. Suburbans have an anode rod. You pull that out and just leave it out, you don't have to worry about it.

But make sure you remove, relieve the pressure on the water heater. You know, the pop off valve, the pressure relief valve, make sure you flip that or open some faucets inside so there's no pressure built up.

You don't want something to come shooting out at you, which that can happen. Now the fresh water isn't the only water to think about. You know, we often just think water pump and where those water lines go and we have faucets.

But think about the outside shower, the spray port, the toilet valve. And I know all this ties in with fresh water, but it can be different areas.

You have low point drains, you have city water connection, you have a black tank flow flusher, maybe washing machine hookups. Your refrigerator might have an ice maker. See, all of a sudden there's all these little things. And not every RV has these.

You know, like if you go ask your neighbor, hey, how do you drain your or winterize your ice maker? You might say, I don't have an ice maker. Right. So you got to make sure you know how to do your rv.

And it sounds simple, but there's so many little things that get broken every year. Even shops that do this sometimes they have bad winterization skills and they can have a lot of problems.

Now if you've gone on a trip recently or you're going to go on another trip, take advantage of that. They're a good opportunity. Notice if you have any little problems. Do you have any water leaks? Do you have weak batteries?

Is your furnace working properly? You know, is your water heater working? Are there any roof leaks? You know, is there any seals like your slide out seals?

Are they not performing the way they should? Does your awning have damage? Are your tires in good shape? Are there problems? Does your slide out have an issue that stuck out? You know, partially.

You know, it doesn't come in all the way. So in wet weather that could be a potential leak.

So it's better to discover these things now, then next spring when you pull your RV out to use it or some of these things can be a problem in the wintertime. Like I said, you know, a slide out that's not coming in all the way or bad seals might be a potential for a leak, a roof leak.

You'd certainly don't want a roof leak all winter long. And even the furnace, you might think, well, I'M not gonna be using my RV until springtime. Furnace stopped working last trip.

You know, it might be better to get it fixed now than to wait. And I say that because, you know, a lot of parts are becoming obsolete depending on the age your rv, sometimes they're harder to get.

Prices are certainly going up and then it's done.

And if you had to use your RV for some reason in the wintertime, maybe the power goes out in your house and you have to hightail it out to the RV to fire up that furnace to get some warmth. You might not be able to use the water, but at least you could run the furnace and have some temp or some heat, right?

So it's better to have it working than not working. So test the furnace, make sure it's working right. Make sure the thermostat cycles on and off with it, that your propane tanks have propane in them.

There's no leaks. You don't necessarily have to have them filled, but you should have some propane them just in case. Now, what about the battery in your rv?

You know, most of the battery companies are going to tell you that you can leave your battery in your RV in freezing conditions. I'm going to stop right there. You know what?

I know some of you are in other states like California, parts of Arizona, Texas, Florida, different areas where it doesn't get freezing, freezing during the wintertime. Maybe parts of the state do, but not all of it. And you know, you're, you're in a different ball game.

But some of these things apply, some of them don't. But this is mainly for the people who are really, you know, in those areas where the water can freeze and cause problems.

And that's the big thing about winterizing. It's the water freezing because once it freezes, it damages things. So it's trying to stay ahead of that. Now back to the battery.

You make sure the battery's in good condition. Like I said, manufacturers recommend if the battery is fully charged, it can freeze.

Now, the problem with that is if you have your trailer, let's say it's a travel trailer, and let's say October, you charge up the battery and you do all your winterizing and you're done with your RV until April. Well, the battery can drain down in October, November, December, January, February, March, April, it can self drain.

Or there could be something in the RV that's draining it. Even with a battery disconnect, the battery can still drain. So all of a sudden you come back in April, the battery's dead.

And now you're wondering, did it freeze? How often did it freeze? Was it frozen for a month, three months, six months? So you don't know. So now you don't know if that battery is good or not.

And you might have just inadvertently ruined your battery. So I recommend you take your batteries out. And I know some RVs, it's a hassle.

And if it's too much of a hassle, just make sure there's a charger on it all winter long. Keep the RV plugged in if possible, or check it regularly, make sure that battery is charged every month.

Maybe plug it in for a week or a few days, get it charged up. I mean, you know your RV and your circumstances, so work accordingly. But there's no reason to let a battery just die, freeze.

It's just, it doesn't make sense. So I suggest you take them out and then just keep them on a bench where they're warm.

And if you want to throw like a battery maintainer on it, a no code charger or something, that's just going to maintain it all through the rest of the winter. Now, the roof is one of the things in some areas that get covers in snow. Others area a lot of water throughout the winter.

And you know, the ones that get covered in snow, sometimes you think, well, you know, it's got snow on it. There's not much I can do now. You know, I'll just wait till spring, see what happens. You don't want to do that.

You want to make sure your roof is sealed before you ever get into that type of weather.

You do not want a roof leak because you know what, during this, you know, let's say there's snow on it and it's, you know, cold out and it's not really melting, but it's there, but it is melting. You know, there's days where it's warmer, it's going to melt. Maybe not all of it, but you know, it, it melts.

Some of it's going to get into the roof, it's going to leak in, maybe freeze at night. So it's not into the RV yet.

There's a process there where all of a sudden after a month or so, you can have a pretty severe leak in your RV and not even realize it. Or just the weight of the snow on the roof is not a good thing. Some cases it can literally bow the roof.

So, you know, keeping the snow off is one thing. You know, your RV and you're where you're at and what you need to do for that, but just pay attention to it.

Because all of a sudden you go back in the spring and a skylight broke or something. You didn't check it all winter long and you got a disaster cooking.

Even if a leak developed and you weren't sure where it was at and your roof's covered with snow, it'd be worth figuring it out.

Get the snow off the roof, get it melted, turn on the furnace on the interior, you know, get the RV out in some sun, get that snow off it, shovel off as much as you can, maybe throw a tarp over it after a certain point so you don't get any more water in there.

But make sure there's no leaks, you know, that there's nothing cracked, no broken skylights, that all the clearance lights, the moldings are all sealed up. Everything's good, you know, and if you don't do it now, it can certainly be a problem later on. And that's what we're trying to avoid.

And the roof damage can just be so astronomically expensive or a major repair. And a lot of times it just totals the RV. The RV is not worth repairing. And sometimes they're really nice RVs, you know, they're good on the inside.

Well, to the person, they're not worth repairing, but to other people they might be. But don't find yourself in that position. Take care of that roof before you put it in storage. Know where you have problems now.

The other thing too is a lot of times it's easy to leave things in an rv. Oh, well, it's winter time. I'm just going to leave all this stuff in here.

But you might leave food in there, which, you know, I guess mice, the attention of mice, they smell it. Canned goods. I mean, I would never leave food in an rv. Canned goods are one thing. Jars of stuff are another.

But, you know, I can have a box of triscuits or something in there, some chips, especially if the packages have been open. You know, the mice will find it. Rodents will find that kind of stuff. But take out all the drinks, toiletries, cleaning products.

These things all freeze. And you don't want them to freeze pet food. So things that are going to freeze, things that are going to attract rodents, take them out of the rv.

Just clean out the rv. Basically what it boils down to, you know, even clothing. Sometimes they can find that and turn that in a little nest.

But you also have your refrigerator, your pantry, your countertops, your floors. Clean all that. You want your RV to be clean because it's not going to attract rodents that way.

If they don't smell foods and have all these fragrances drawing them in, oh, there's food in there. You know, there might only be a crumb, but they smell it. And you don't want mice in your RV. They destroy RVs, they destroy homes. So avoid that.

So think about rodent prevention. What can you do? Because they're shopping. They're shopping now for a winter place. They want a place to hang out all winter long.

Someplace nice, warm and cozy with three meals a day. So they're gonna find ways to get in your rv. Look for openings. Now, granted, your tires are sitting on the ground. They could crawl up the tires.

You know, they could get a grappling hook, a little miniature one, fling it up there. You know, we know they can get in anywhere in a hole, you know, a hole that's that you think a mice would never go through.

They're gonna go through it. I forget the sides they can squeeze down to, but it's like next to nothing. So don't think you've got it covered when you don't.

So check your rv, check the underbelly, you know, the furnace, I mean, different areas where they can climb into the rv. And they do get into furnaces, they get into water heaters. That's a hot one, right? Remove food, remove things that are going to attract them.

Now also your tires. Now tires on a trailer, motorhome, they're going to sit in the wintertime.

Make sure you have them properly inflated all the way up, maximum pressure, at least for travel trailers. You know, look for damage on them. Now, you know, if the tires are starting to show some wear, tear, the treads are coming apart a little bit.

You know, you can wait till after winter time to replace those tires if they're already bad. If your tires are good and you're not already doing it, get some covers for them. Keep covers on the tires. Even the sun in wintertime is exposure.

So keep the tires covered all year long. And then if you can, don't leave the RV sitting area where water pools.

You know, you don't want your tires like sitting in a mud bog like I drive some by some RV storage lots. And you see that the tires are just like the RV's been sitting there forever and it's sinking in the ground. It's in this mud bog.

The tires are destroyed. And make sure any leveling equipment you're using, you know, for storage, you typically want it, but you might make sure it's being used correctly.

Not just sinking into the mud, not doing anything for it.

But just make sure that your tires are in good shape, you know, before or what kind of shape they're in before they go into storage and then what kind of shape after winter Storage, right. Tires, very important. They can ruin a lot of trips. I mentioned it earlier, the sewer system, but don't forget it.

You want to check it, make sure everything's empty. The black tank's empty, gray water flushed out, all that stuff. Everything's good to go there. And of course, propane.

Make sure you don't have any leaks. And if you have any awnings, check to make sure they're not filled with water. In certain areas, they get a ton of moisture in them.

And I recommend this time of year pulled. Bring your awning out for the day, let it dry out, bring it back in.

And, you know, if you get more rain and you have the opportunity to bring it out in the wintertime in the sun, do it, because they will get water in them. And then that creates mold and other problems. So now it really boils down to this. How are you going to winterize?

It's, are you going to use antifreeze, compressed air? You're going to use a combination of both. Do you have heated storage?

Are you just going to keep your RV completely operational throughout the cold winter months? That's up to you, but decide that now. Maybe you already have that game plan figured out. So then it becomes, when am I going to do it?

When am I going to take care of this? That's what's important. So watch the weather, plan your trips and have a plan. Don't just let this go. I'll get to it when I get to it.

I mean, in my house we got an RV to winterize, a boat to winterize, a house to winterize. We got, you know, property to maintain, things we got to do. So I'm a little ahead of it. But some things I put off, like, oh, that can wait.

Like getting our irrigation winterized, that I wait till the last day where it's just before freezing, because that's the way I like to do it. But it doesn't always work for the guy who comes by at the compressor and blows out the irrigation system.

He kind of doesn't like me because of that, but that's my deal. But I'm thinking about it, so we need to think about it. Even it's just one simple rv. Make sure it doesn't turn into a nightmare.

And come springtime, you're regretting it. Then also make any notes as you're winterizing for problems that you can take care of in the springtime.

Maybe something breaks, you notice something's not working right and it can wait till springtime. Take notes and put it on the counter of the RV so you don't lose it.

Keep an accurate list and then just okay, as soon as spring comes, as soon as it, you know, thaws out, I'm gonna get these things taken care of. Alright, so now don't winterize because the calendar says it's September. Winterize because you're not gonna use your RV anymore this year.

So if you have another trip planned, two trips planned, take them, watch the weather and just make sure that nothing crazy happens. There's no changes and nothing's going to freeze. So enjoy the last trips, but just be prepared to winterize when the last trips are over.

Now make sure you look in the description of this podcast. There's, this is 211. We're going to have a checklist and links to various things. So just check out that description.

All right, now that brings us to quick tips.

And as I said, we are going to review some of the products we've been testing here that we bought from the Jungle website because they were low priced and supposedly they work. And I talked about this in episode 208, but they are already out being tested prior to that episode.

So we had a handful of products that we put in specific RVs, specific customers. They knew what we were doing. We tested the parts and what we have found is it's not promising.

You know, there's a lot of like $30 slide out motors on the Jungle website. They're not worth 30 bucks. That's overpriced because they don't last. And we have found that about 70% of the parts we tested as of now have failed.

And we've put in factory, you know, the, the, like the Lippert part or the brand that should be in there or a very qualified replacement part. You know, there are a couple companies that make the same quality as Dometic, Lippert and such.

They just don't make everything and not so not everything's available. But when it is, we will buy that stuff and it carries the same warranties like Dometic Wood or Lippert Wood because it's a quality part.

But these Jungle parts are not lasting, at least not in our testing. Circuit boards have failed, the Slide out motors have failed. And yeah, we've done toilet valves and all that other stuff over the years.

And all that stuff is garbage. I mean, in our opinion. I mean, I wouldn't ever put it in. And some of that stuff is so cheap.

You know, dometic has an 85 toilet valve which is, you know, way overpriced. But that's what they, you know, that's what it has to sell for or higher. And you can get that same valve on the Jungle website for like 12 bucks.

There's something wrong with that picture. It doesn't work. It's way too cheap. Dometic's way too expensive. That part's way too cheap. And they don't last. It's a joke.

Even some RV stores will sell them, you know, hey, we got this part on Amazon, you know, and you can have it. It's $17. Come on man, it's junk. Now Liper Components makes a water valve that sells for $25 that will replace one of the Dometic water valves.

And that price, that is actually a decent valve. And you know what, on that particular toilet, the 300 series, it seems like those valves fail quite a bit, quite a bit no matter what.

But here in Montana they freeze quite a bit. So if you spend 25 bucks every springtime for that water valve because you don't win your eyes it properly, yeah, what's the big deal, right?

And they're easy to replace.

But anyways, back to the quality parts or non quality parts, low quality parts, you know, if it's a budgetary thing and you're going to buy the part and you know, it might last you for a full year depending on how often you buy, use your rv.

If you use your RV three times a year and you buy two Lippert slide out motors, let's say you have twin motors on yours and they're, you know, 30 bucks, 40 bucks a piece and they last you for a full year, that's not so bad. Other than the labor of putting them in.

If you date yourself and it's free labor, if you paid someone, well, that really sucks because they're not gonna do it again for free. I mean, they wouldn't do it anyways.

But the other thing is too, when you have, when you buy products on the Jungle website, and I just went through this with a customer, she bought a converter and she had it for about 45 days and it wasn't working right. I said, well, take it back to where you got it. She goes, well I bought it on the Jungle website.

And she goes, you know, there's only a 30 day warranty. And after that you're on your own. She goes, these companies don't really exist. And she's right.

So you might have a longer warranty if the company will honor it. Typically we have found they don't.

So you have to go through Amazon and they're going to say, well, sorry, the manufacturer or the seller doesn't want to warranty it. So we're not going to do it. And Amazon didn't sell it to you. They're just the party that offers the service. So you can buy it, right?

To find that a company that sells the low price garbage on their website. So just be cautious and it might work for you. And I'm not saying to avoid it altogether.

If there's things on there that'll work for you, last a year, two years, gets you down the road out of a pinch, whatever it might be, then who cares, right? It solved the problem for the day. So just be cautious though. Even the reviews, are they real reviews or are they AI reviews?

Are they the manufacturer putting their reviews out there? You can usually tell the difference between real ones and fake ones, legitimate ones. Just be cautious, talk to others, maybe bought the same parts.

So that's just it for our quick tips and just a little update on those parts and that'll be the end of it because we kind of know where we stand on it. We are not behind them. We will not sell them. We're done with them. All right, so now let's go to smart tips.

Not all education happens in the classroom. Now, it's an interesting phrase. I heard that from a guy who sells us ads on the radio locally. I thought it was kind of interesting.

Not all education happens in the classroom. We were talking about some things that I was doing and you know, learning from it.

And in fact, that was basically about our last episode 210 about buying the boat and the trailer and all the problems and the things you learn. So, you know, he said that, well, not all education happens in the classroom. I thought, you know, it's so true.

And not all education happens on YouTube either, or the Internet or from your friends. It's by getting in there and taking care of business. So it's the real world problem.

Sometimes you can go to the Internet or talk to somebody and they might be able to help you with a problem or send you in the right direction. It might not be the right solution, but you're heading in the right direction. And sometimes that's all I'm looking for.

And I'm looking for a solution. It's not the Solution. It's the direction I'll find the solution if it's out there in front of me, right? So think about that.

That, you know, you might be struggling with something, you know, on your rv, trying to find a problem or solve a problem. Maybe it's something else. Your car, your house, your life, your marriage. I don't know.

But sometimes it's just you have to stay at it and, you know, experiment. Look at it. Don't get frustrated. Just think about that. Not all education happens in the classroom. It happens out in the field.

It happens on the side of your rv, under your rv, when you're working on it. And you might go to a shop, hey, I got this furnace that's doing this, and I've replaced these parts. And they're going, wow.

I'm not really sure, you know, because you've replaced all the parts that it could be. And those things happen. You get these oddball problems. We have a mobile tech here in this area. He's always.

He comes across every oddball problem there is. It is crazy. And, you know, we'll talk about some of the things. And it's like, man, you know, it's just like, what else could it be?

So you really have to put on your thinking cap and think outside the box sometimes. And, you know, so I learned from those things, he learns from them. And, you know, of course, I run into problems like that as well.

Not everybody's gonna have the answer for you because it's not always the classroom, Right? It's out in the field. So don't get frustrated. Just think about that. You can figure it out.

And sometimes it might take a little bit longer than you like, but that education will come. All right, everybody. So that's bringing us to the end of the show today. So now we have been talking about our newsletter.

I'm still asking you to sign up, man, I've got to get this newsletter going. Is falling behind. I'm horrible at this stuff. Too many things going on. But sign up. Don't give up on me.

I say that laughing because this, man, I know this guy's been saying this for so long, and I know that's what you're thinking. But anyways, we'll make it happen, okay? I promise. And in Our next episode, 212, we're going to talk about maintain, repair, or replace your furnace.

You got three options. Door number one, Lucy. So three options. And so we'll come back in episode 212 and we will talk about that.

So, all right, everybody, that's going to do it. For today's episode of the Smart RVer podcast, thank you for listening.

I'm Eric Stark, and if you'd rather be camping than sitting in a repair shop, you're in the right place. Until next time, take care of the little things and enjoy the trip.